tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post6643736941967292415..comments2023-09-03T02:36:17.415-07:00Comments on Bruin Democrats: I'm just sayin...Exarchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16774296503648266079noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-55356311012398104382007-11-12T16:17:00.000-08:002007-11-12T16:17:00.000-08:00I read it - and then I went back and re-read the a...I read it - and then I went back and re-read the article again. It is true, he never said the words 'she's too old per se,' so on that I shall grant you a victory. The article's headline is misleading. <BR/><BR/>However, the point that he does use generational politics still stands - now I don't think he's an ageist, but I think we can all have a spirited debate whether or not pitting one generation against another is good for the country. I personally do not think it is - but I also understand that you think it's time for a change.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, I was listening to Bob Dylan's 'Times They Are A-Changin'' a while back and it struck me as quite Obama-like.<BR/><BR/><I>Come mothers and fathers<BR/>Throughout the land<BR/>And don't criticize<BR/>What you can't understand<BR/>Your sons and your daughters<BR/>Are beyond your command<BR/>Your old road is<BR/>Rapidly agin'.<BR/>Please get out of the new one<BR/>If you can't lend your hand<BR/>For the times they are a-changin'.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>This is high praise from me. :-)lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975271787285261273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-87726079826342271742007-11-12T14:59:00.000-08:002007-11-12T14:59:00.000-08:00I did post a comment to your misleading post. You...I did post a comment to your misleading post. You should read it.Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13976661587548878315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-64914199742352769782007-11-12T10:12:00.000-08:002007-11-12T10:12:00.000-08:00If you disagree with the author's or my take on th...If you disagree with the author's or my take on the article, then write a post or comment about it!!! This is a place for dialogue, not silent brooding. I'd love to see some anti-Hillary/Edwards stuff out there.lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975271787285261273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-62540341511456116552007-11-12T00:15:00.000-08:002007-11-12T00:15:00.000-08:00I agree with Gabe for the most part. I don't thin...I agree with Gabe for the most part. I don't think we should silence our criticisms of other candidates, but I do think we owe it to our readers to make fair -- rather than provocative -- criticisms. Caitlin admitted it herself when she responded to Gabe's post by arguing that her and Kyle's attacks inspire "elicit" responses. Though my objectivity is at best suspect, I sincerely believe that many of the anti-Obama posts have been pretty ridiculous. The story Kyle links in his "ageist" post doesn't mention the actual quote Obama gave to the press about Hillary's chances of bringing America together. Instead, it opts for sensationally stating that Obama said Hillary was "too old." He never said that. If he had said that, it would have been fair to call him ageist. I'm sure Kyle doesn't give a shit, though. And he'll probably respond with the question "are you going to cry?" That sarcastic question usually marks the end of the debate. So, fuck it. I quit.Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13976661587548878315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-2402315688502771932007-11-11T22:45:00.000-08:002007-11-11T22:45:00.000-08:00meh, it's politics. while I am against unfair att...meh, it's politics. while I am against unfair attacks, silencing discussion just because a certain candidate is having a bad few weeks in the press sounds a lot like the GOP...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09420917785234309683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-25295382948456501142007-11-11T22:06:00.000-08:002007-11-11T22:06:00.000-08:00Well again, at this point 'everyone' mostly amount...Well again, at this point 'everyone' mostly amounts to me and Sean, at least looking at the recent blog posts proportionally. If the tone is to be changed, perhaps we should do it by having more people post more often. An Obamaesque theory, eh?lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975271787285261273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-7558226338933645172007-11-11T22:03:00.000-08:002007-11-11T22:03:00.000-08:00yeah, i mean, im not by any means trying to silenc...yeah, i mean, im not by any means trying to silence anyone, or tell people they should write about stuff they don't care about. i just think we should all agree to focus our collective energy a little more on our opponents, rather than ourselves. if all we're all interested in is bashing other candidates, well, then lets keep writing about that. but im pretty sure thats not the case, so im asking everyone to join me in changing our tone a little bit. thats all.gabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287377253596719290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-17644235804797981782007-11-11T21:39:00.000-08:002007-11-11T21:39:00.000-08:00I mostly agree - while I think there have been too...I mostly agree - while I think there have been too many of them lately, I do like the discourse created by the candidate posts. They're fun, and almost always elicit responses. They get people "fired up," to steal an Obama tagline. <BR/><BR/>While I don't think that cutting them out completely is a good idea, I would like to see more posts bashing the Republican candidates for being the incompetent morons that they are, and more posts advertising our actual club - talking about the tailgate, recent meetings and such.Caitlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12175899680452191482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-6430667940653508812007-11-11T21:32:00.000-08:002007-11-11T21:32:00.000-08:00Ultimately the blog is what you make it. If you w...Ultimately the blog is what you make it. If you want it to be more substantive, then you should add to the substance by posting about issues and advocacy! It doesn't have to be either/or, but folks shouldn't be forced or guilted to write about things they are not interested in at the moment. <BR/><BR/>That is, after all, why we have many authors, to get many different opinions. So ultimately it comes down to <I>more people </I>being necessary to post about a more diverse range of issues. Indeed, looking at the page right now, excluding your post, only six people have written entries (several from Sean and me, and one from Curtis/Afshin/Harrison/Caitlin).<BR/><BR/>That's what we need - more contributions from different people, not an alteration of the ones already contributing.lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975271787285261273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20834426.post-2245783555244141312007-11-11T19:27:00.000-08:002007-11-11T19:27:00.000-08:00Well, in all fairness to Sean, he's probably poste...Well, in all fairness to Sean, he's probably posted the most non-2008 posts. But I do generally agree that whenever I see the author of a post, I already know what it's going to be. <BR/><BR/>Although there should definitely be posts about our current candidates, I do agree with Gabe that there are so many other topics to cover. I like coming here because it is usually different than the mudslinging/horserace mentality that they like to cover in the main stream news.<BR/><BR/>2 cents from an alum so old, she dealt with the inner party fighting as BD'er circa 2004.Kristinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10675478835520940401noreply@blogger.com